Fast food toilets cleaner than ice machinesPosted Feb 15th 2006 8:42PM by Nick Vagnoni A seventh grader from Tampa recently won her school science fair with an experiment that compared levels of bacteria
in the toilets and ice machines of five different fast food restaurants. According to 12-year-old Jasmine Roberts, the
toilets contained less bacteria 70 percent of the time. For the toilet samples, Roberts flushed each toilet and then
scooped up some water with a sterile beaker. For the ice, she took samples from machines inside the restaurants as well
as from ice ordered at each drive-through window. The samples were tested at Tampa's Moffitt Cancer Center where Roberts
volunteers. The video that accompanies the story has footage of a graph comparing the bacteria in toilets versus ice.
Some of the differences are vast. Unfortunately, Roberts doesn't disclose the names of the restaurants. |
Related Comments: 22. 6. It appears the Health Dept isn't doing their jobs and this article may wake them up a little bit!! all Health Depts should check ice and beverage machines as part of weekly inspections What do we pay these Public Servants for ?? Posted at 10:46AM on Feb 21st 2006 by hank 23. I am surprised at all the negative comments. Drink toilet watr if you want to. The tests were performed at a cancer center and E. coli was found in several cases. The girl should be applauded rather than ridiculed. Posted at 10:49AM on Feb 21st 2006 by John 24. I worked for the maintenance dept. at a large convention center on the west coast. We would repair the ice machines on occasion. I was shocked at how dirty they were inside the bins. I stopped getting sodas at the cafeteria. Posted at 10:51AM on Feb 21st 2006 by Sean Amundson 25. The initial article I read didn't mention E. coli, but this one does say that it was among the bacteria identified: http://www.theepochtimes.com/news/6-2-21/38460.html Posted at 10:59AM on Feb 21st 2006 by Nick 26. I am not surprised by the findings, I worked at several Fast Food restaurants and was always cleaning up some really gross stuff. One restaurant that I worked in didn't make sure that the machines that mixed the shakes were wiped down after each shake. I would come in for the evening shift and there would be dried up shake goo on both machines. Now isn't that appetizing, old milk product being used to mix shakes. YUM! There is bad stuff everywhere for us to eat. Heck, the French fries at Mc'D's could clog an artery. They don't force us to eat them, we know they are bad for us, but we like them so we eat them. It used to be eggs were bad for us, but now they are good, at least more good than bad. Bottom line. It you want to know what you are eating and how it was prepared stay home and cook. It's cheaper anyway! Posted at 11:02AM on Feb 21st 2006 by Teresa 27. No one s/b surprised by this news; though, unfortunately, some media outlets are making it sounds like it's huge breaking news. I would no more drink a cup of soda from a machine (vs. a sealed bottle)than drink from a toilet. Those things don't even look clean most of the time. Posted at 11:10AM on Feb 21st 2006 by mcglick 28. To raise the awareness of those around you is in itself a victory. What they (the public) do from there is totally up to them. Interestingly enough, I stayed in Florida for a while and it took me a while to get past the smell (choline perhaps) of the tap water as well as the ice cubes. I believe that each state has a say in how much antibacterial chemical is applied in their water treatment facilities. As far as ice makers in general, I don't recall the last time I cleaned mine at home. The bacteria they found was probably in the tap water itself and not in the ice making process. Mark/Johnston RI Posted at 11:12AM on Feb 21st 2006 by Mark A. Markrush 29. Great job! What is wrong with you goobers who criticize the media for breaking a story about a real and potentially dangerous health hazard? I've had a lot of stomach trouble in my life and have found that drinking bottled water usually solves it. Now maybe I know part of the reason why. Thanks, young lady, for your excellent work. We need more people in this country like you, who are willing to go the extra mile and do something great. Posted at 11:15AM on Feb 21st 2006 by me 30. THANK YOU FOR 'BEING THERE'... Posted at 11:16AM on Feb 21st 2006 by MIRTHA del VALLE 31. don't surprise me. I worked in fast food and have seen the way the ice machines get cleaned, if they even do. A lot of time you can find mold growing in the chute where the ice comes out. even if the ice was clean in the bin by the time it comes out the chute it is contaminated. If people think this is bad they should see the soda heads of most restaurants if you pull them off ( that is if they come off, may be molded or glued on) you probable would find things that haven't been cleaned in months. They are to be cleaned and sanitized nightly, but they are not. I used to work on them and have seen many science experiments growing there.good thing our bodies are good fighters. Posted at 11:24AM on Feb 21st 2006 by mike 32. don't surprise me. I worked in fast food and have seen the way the ice machines get cleaned, if they even do. A lot of time you can find mold growing in the chute where the ice comes out. even if the ice was clean in the bin by the time it comes out the chute it is contaminated. If people think this is bad they should see the soda heads of most restaurants if you pull them off ( that is if they come off, may be molded or glued on) you probable would find things that haven't been cleaned in months. They are to be cleaned and sanitized nightly, but they are not. I used to work on them and have seen many science experiments growing there.good thing our bodies are good fighters. Posted at 11:25AM on Feb 21st 2006 by mike 33. Um hate to break it to you all but your tooth brush is probably more contaminated then the water we are talking about here. Think about it when you sneeze it is so powerful that the siliva from your mouth can fill the whole room. Isn't it only logical that when you flush a toilet and your tooth brush is sitting on the counter that it is likley to deposit moisture droplets on your tooth brush. I do agree that ice machines and bins need to be cleaned better. But come on people if we stopped eating everything that would make us sick we would not eat or drink at all. God Bless you all. Have a wonderful week! Posted at 11:28AM on Feb 21st 2006 by Amanda 34. Um hate to break it to you all but your tooth brush is probably more contaminated then the water we are talking about here. Think about it when you sneeze it is so powerful that the siliva from your mouth can fill the whole room. Isn't it only logical that when you flush a toilet and your tooth brush is sitting on the counter that it is likley to deposit moisture droplets on your tooth brush. I do agree that ice machines and bins need to be cleaned better. But come on people if we stopped eating everything that would make us sick we would not eat or drink at all. God Bless you all. Have a wonderful week! Posted at 11:28AM on Feb 21st 2006 by Amanda 35. "All one has to do is look at the quality of the workers in fast food joints and decuce what the qualty of the environment will be like." Posted at 11:35AM on Feb 21st 2006 by Kim 36. I can't believe the people who discount this study. Although it may not be the most scientific study, I believe all should be concerned enough for the health department to get off their duffs and investigate this. There may be bacteria everywhere but I expect my food and drink to be sanitary and I think there is no reason why it shouldn't be. We recently had to get on to a Burger King restaurant because the tables had years of dirt on them. Again, no reason for it. He cleaned them, finally. We need to speak up more in these places. Posted at 11:43AM on Feb 21st 2006 by Patricia Wise 37. Yes, I'm concerned about the presence of E. coli in restaurant ice. But I'd like to comment on the fact that "all the friends" chew ice constantly. Ice chewing (and other strange cravings) can be indicative of anemia or other medical problems. The friends need to get checkups... Posted at 11:48AM on Feb 21st 2006 by A.S. H. 38. Does anyone remember the Legionar's Disease Scare a few years ago? Posted at 11:48AM on Feb 21st 2006 by John M 39. I am not surprised at the results. I've been in resturants and seen buckets sitting on the floor. they were picked up filled with ice and then taken to the ice machine for the servers. No I am not surprised!!!!!!!!! Posted at 11:49AM on Feb 21st 2006 by Barbara 40. My initial question was the location that the toilet water samples were drawn from. To me, that would be a major point of reference, as the water coming into the tank should be directly from the city water supply and unexposed to human waste. The article says "Toilet water is also surprisingly bacteria-free, because it comes from sanitized city water supplies" which alludes to the idea she obtained it from the toilet "tank". In that case, it should be no surprise that the ice machine water is dirtier and contaminated from other things such as unclean hands, minimal cleansing from periodic inspections from employees. Now then, if the water was obtained from the toilet "bowl", which another part of the article talks about, ("she flushed the toilet and then obtained the sample") and the ice is still dirtier than the toilet "bowl" water, then we have a real problem!! And health officials need to step up requirements and the restaurants have to step up their sanitizing program. So, we need more information to make an appropriate observation but her science project certainly has validity and is a resource to better quality "food" in our restaurants. Posted at 11:54AM on Feb 21st 2006 by Murrel Petry |
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21. Hold on a sec!!! I can understand everything everyones saying that this is a Science Project. But you dont think it derserves a look into for this is a very serious matter, people cant go around drinking bacteria and its true we do it often but why cant we reduce it? i think a better study should be done!!!
Posted at 10:43AM on Feb 21st 2006 by Elise